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If so, it may be because they are excluding themselves . If you employ “all or nothing” thinking then men with average – larger than average peni are never left by partners, never rejected in love, never ridiculed, never experience any form of self doubt, never divorce, are never lonely or unhappy and never, ever have a sexually dissatisfied sexual partner. If you believe that then perhaps it is time to re-think your way of looking at things.

I repeat my previous sentiment, my comments are made with the best of intentions. I really do empathise but also note that alot of people leaving comments seem utterly determined to be “right”, to dispute certain facts, to argue and fight for their right to feel bad about themselves. Why is it so important to some to be vindicated in their pain, whether reasonably justified or not? If you are that set on holding onto your negative beliefs about your penis ok, you are exactly as you want to feel you are. Now what?

Plus, of course, this doesn’t change the fact that dysmorphophobia (perceived “small penis syndrome”) does exist in certain men. And it wasn’t (to my knowledge) discovered or invented or conceptualized by the authors of these articles either.

If you cannot change the object, change the way you relate to/feel about/view the object .

It’s kind of hard to take heart when you’re below the 5.5 inch minimum length. Besides, no one is happy settling for the minimum anyway. Especially in the case of penis size where it’s ridiculously easy for women to find a man with more.

There’s a multitude of scientific studies out there that report average size as being much larger than the study you referenced. Look them up, they’re easy to find. While you’re at it, take a look at the UCLA study that found 70% of women were not satisfied with a man who has a small penis.

Despite all of the studies and their varied definitions of average size, the fact remains that most women consider 6″ to be the average size and they describe anything less as being small. The largest study to date on penis size and satisfaction found that 68% of women with small-penised partners were not satisfied with their partner’s size and desired larger. So if your penis is at least 6″ long, you really have nothing to worry about. But if it’s less than 6″ in length, your concerns are justified as you most likely have a long, lonely, painful road ahead of you.

I AM ALL FOR POSITIVE THINKING..

BUT OUTRIGHT DELUSION CANNOT BE A VIABLE STATE OF MIND.

ONE POSTER SAID 7 CM WAS OK?

HE ALSO SAID 12.5 CM WAS THE AVERAGE?? THAT JUST PLAIN ISNT TRUE.

HE THINKS CORRELATED MEANS ‘EQUAL TO’. NO IT DOESNT..

MY ERECTION IS 50% LONGER THAN WHEN JUST STRETCHED.

HE HAS SIMPLY IGNORED DATA THAT DOESNT SUPPORT HIS GOOD NEWS.

CAN YOU IGNORE STREET SURVEYS?

DOCUMENTARY TV PROGRAMS?

MASSIVE US AND UK SURVEYS?

MASSIVE INTERNET SURVEYS?

THE PROBLEM WITH SMALL SAMPLE NURSE SURVEYS IS THEY DONT GIVE DETAILS OF MEASUREMENT.

IF I AM FULLY HARD, PRESSING IT HORIZONTAL AND PRESING RULER INTO PUBIC BONE IM NEARLY 1.5 INCHES LARGER THAN IF I SIMPLY REST THE RULER ON ME? WHICH IS THE TRUE SIZE? ISUSPECT THE SMALL NURSE SAMPLES PITCH VALUES LOW.

ALSO TO SAY WOMEN DONT KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN WHEN THEY SAY THEY WANT 6 INCHES? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? THEY CANT READ A RULER? YOU DONT THINK THEY UNDERSTAND MATH.

YOU DONT HINK THEY BUY AND OWN VIBRATORS? YOU DONT THINK THEY NOTICE THE ABEL ON THE PACKAGING? 9 INCH REALISTIC VIBRATOR.

IMSORRY BUT THIS FILTERING PAR EXCELLANCE.

Dear Filtering Par Excellance.

Alright, alright YOU WIN! You are absolutely correct, you have a tiny penis, you are destined to a lonely life and nobody will ever want to be with you. You are given free rein to rant at the world for your lot in life, feel insecure about yourself and trawl the universe for any scrap of information that can augment your belief system. Congratulations!

As I actually have a life, I have decided to stop reading this site (and submitting posts in an effort to help somebody who might be suffering) but feel it necessary to first assist you in your (mis)understanding of my previous posts.

If you have a 7 cm erection and you are ok with it, then it is ok. Is it the average? No. Is it a penis that will make woman swoon and men gasp? No. Is it within 2 sd of the mean? No. Does it qualify as a “micropenis” in medical terms? Yes. But if that is what you have, then that is what you have. You decide how to feel about that, including the right to be ok with it.I stated that research has shown “average (fully stretched/erect) lengths of 12-14 cm and average (erect) girth of 11-13 cm , in studies conducted in Europe, South America, North America and Asia”. Consistently. I included details of one study that meets the requirements for a well designed empirical research approach, with a large sample size wherein 12.5 cm was found to be the mean. Although that is in agreement with the other studies, I did not give that value as an absolute mean. The reason being is that most penis size studies have presented a range of values representing the mean rather than an absolute value. Most studies appear to be bi-modal suggesting that penis size falls within a span of values from which the “mean” can be determined.I am fully cognizant of the meaning of the word “correlated”. Do not make inane statements based on your own interpretations. Two studies were conducted specifically investing the relationship between stretched penile length and erection size wherein it was concluded that as they are well correlated , stretched length can be used as a good indication of erection size. This finding has been reinforced by research that took both the stretched length and the erect length measurements. Erect length is, consistently, larger than stretched length with different values from different studies, ranging from 0.4 cm to approximately 1 cm. One study found a higher difference in measurements (approximately 2.6 cm if I can recall correctly) but this was still a statistically significant correlation. You must have a truly unique penis if you report a 50% difference between stretched length and erect length. Or perhaps your understanding of “stretched” is as limited as your understanding of “correlated”.You are correct that I ignore street surveys, “documentary” tv programs, “massive UK and US studies and (my personal favourite) “massive internet surveys”. The reasoning for this has been explained and is so rational that it amazes me that it needs to be reiterated but, for you, I will. Of course every man will report his correct penis size to the mm when approached on the street or interviewed for a “documentary”…how silly to think otherwise. Especially as there are people who continue to insist on refuting facts and call a 7 inch penis “on the small side of average”. And while we know and accept that there are 160 kg truck drivers named Bubba on the Net representing themselves in chat rooms as 14 year old girls called Melissa we cannot even begin to consider the possibility that men may exaggerate or even lie about their true penis size in Internet surveys. How ridiculous to think that they would be anything less than completely honest and forthcoming. Do you REALLY need this explained to you?“Small sample nurse surveys”? 3000 men in the sample?! As for the other well conducted research that does actually use less than desirable sample sizes, the fact that the results are remarkably consistent remains significant. Do the same group of men flit from country to country having their wangs measured repeatedly? There are “laws” surrounding the concept of inference from sampling, linked to central tendency and the standard normal distribution. Look them up.Your point regarding type of measurement is valid. The studies that I trust take the measurement from the ventral side. This is accepted practice in empirical penis size research. The measurements are usually non-bone pressed and it is generally stated if otherwise. Unfortunately men measuring themselves do not do so in a standardized manner. Measurements are taken from the dorsal side or along the side of the penis which can provide an extra inch (or more). The Large Penis Support Group site appears to encourage “bone pressed” measurements as they argue that the “fat pad” surrounding the pubis can minimize measurements. This is, of course, true. Just as it is true that a portion of the penile root lies well within the body. Personally, I do not see the point in impaling oneself on a ruler and thereby gaining length as the aesthetic and functional aspects of the penis are related to non bone pressed length. Penetration can only go as far as what the pubis allows, fat pad or no fat pad. It is thus only this portion of the penis that is usable and visible, which to my mind suggests this is the only portion that should be considered. I do agree though that to those who need some personal reassurance regarding their size, these “tricks” may prove helpful. This lack of correct measuring may also account for why some men report a penis of 6.5 inches only to have it objectively measured as 5 or 5.5 in. But hey, whatever blows your hair back. Visual perspective is an interesting thing. My comment was that most people cannot accurately gauge measurements without the use of a measuring instrument. Therefore, unless a penis was actually measured, using the standardized method, any anecdotal reports from women (or men) regarding penis size in previous lovers is just that, anecdotal. One member of the afore-mentioned Large Penis Support Group website stated it beautifully in saying that any woman rushing out of the kitchen screaming about the spider she just discovered, will report it as HUGE! I don’t believe I said that women cannot read a ruler, I believe I asked “do all of these woman carry measuring tapes in their condom holders? With all due respect, ask a woman (or a man, for that matter) to indicate 13 cm with their hands and see what you come up with”. Is the difference between perception and fact (measurement) clear to you now?Women do buy vibrators, at least some do. And if you did some research you would know that the top selling vibrators are the ones sized 5 to 7 inches. The extra large sizes do sell, and according to retailers who talk to some of their customers, often as novelty or gag gifts. This is not to say that some women, invariably, will buy the larger sizes for their personal use. However, do you think that perhaps they need to hold the vibrator at the protruding end in order to utilize it or do you suppose that they merely slide in 9 inches of silicone to the hilt? Are there hordes of women out there struggling to pinch those few protruding mm to remove their vibrators because they just had to get all of those 9 inches in there? Is it even conceivable to you that with a 9 inch sex toy they may not insert all of it into the vagina during sex play? I do not need to filter my understanding of this topic as I do not have any penis size concerns. Nor am I on the other side of the spectrum, that is, a vindictive type who needs to insult and belittle other men regarding their penis size insecurities as I feel somehow superior. I have no emotional investment or hidden agenda regarding this topic. I am, as the “Rod Researcher” may have implied, on this site for professional reasons and for that reason am able to investigate a wide range of information and studies objectively and without bias or the need to confirm something for my own peace of mind. I am able to discard the studies that are flawed in their design and include studies that conform to good practice, regardless of the results they produce. My previous postings were a simplified summary of those findings, presented with the intention of educating and assisting good interpretation of data. Nothing more, nothing less.My understanding is that this article was originally about a psychological condition and was not intended to address a (real) physiological problem such as an erect penis that falls under 2 sd of the established mean. You have not indicated whether you are a man dealing with a genuinely small penis but it would seem that you and your thinking are typical of the dysmorphophobia addressed within the article. I think that perhaps it is you who is filtering. Lastly, why is it that all the men who experience negative reactions from partners just know it is due to their penis size? I would warrant a guess that the bitterness, hostility and obsessive single-mindedness regarding their penis displayed by some in these comments is possibly the reason a partner just gives up. Good luck to all who are battling this concern. I truly hope that you open your mind to other possibilities and allow joy and self acceptance into your lives. You really DO have a choice, irrespective of the size of your penis.

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